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4:41 pm
July 13, 2007
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Smitty
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craphonso said:
I’m open to the lottery idea, another idea that I’ve used in other leagues is the teams that do not make the playoffs get the draft picks the following year in inverse order according to record/points etc. So the best team the missed the playoffs gets the #1 pick the following year in the rookie draft (which would not be snake style). We could do both, such as lottery for regular draft (snake style) and inverse for rookie. Good idea Smitty never really done the lottery thing.
How will you create the lottery order you ask? 
I think we might have an answer (cough**tool**) for that soon enough, which is why I brought it up
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7:26 pm
July 13, 2007
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Sweet! Dynasty is by far my favorite format and I’m psyched to be in another with what looks like some serious competition. And Smitty is right, it is actually easier to run than a keeper league.
Here are some ideas for the rookie draft from the dynasty I’m already in:
- The non-playoff teams are ranked in inverse order by record and then points. Then the teams who made the playoffs but lost their opening round game are ranked in inverse order the same way. This continues with the playoff teams until the Champion ultimately picks last.
- It runs for 5 rounds and includes not only rookies but any available free agent.
I don’t recommend a lottery to determine the first pick(s). If a team is clearly the worst, or one of the worst, it really isn’t fair in this format to not give them the first pick. It is hard enough for a team to climb out of the cellar in a dynasty - not getting the first pick makes it much, much harder. If you are worried about teams tanking on purpose, having a lottery isn’t going to prevent that. Just my 2 cents on that.
For this season, I’m not sure what the benefit to having a separate rookie draft are - I prefer to just be allowed to draft anyone I want when my turn comes up. Unless there is real benefit to doing it that way?
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9:12 pm
July 13, 2007
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Tavaner
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I’m open to the lottery as well. I see the rookie draft holding more value though. I don’t have the experience to know but I can’t imagine there would be many upgrades available after over 300 players had been chosen.
How has giving the best team that missed the playoffs worked out? I can see how it could maintain interest and help.
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9:39 pm
July 13, 2007
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Tavaner
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How about including IDP? 2DL/2LB/2DB
That would give us three drafts…which we could do simultaneously.
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I would be down for that IDP format, its not overly complex but gives us a nice dose of IDP. I really would like to keep the drafts separate though like Tav mentioned. The benefit to breaking them down is that with this many players to be drafted it really makes it more manageable to break it down like that. trying to build rankings to integrate rookies and IDP and vets all together gets difficult and very time consuming. 3 separate drafts will make everyones jobs easier plus I like that it spreads the drafting order around because you can have 3 separate draft orders giving everyone chances at having a different draft pick for each segment, I think it will work out great.
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11:09 pm
July 13, 2007
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That makes sense to me, so I’m good with splitting up the drafts if that’s what is decided. I also much prefer drafting defensive players over teams, so the setup Tavaner suggested sounds good as well.
Some additional suggestions: adding a flex spot into the lineup (RB/WR/TE) and setting rosters at 24 players (or more).
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8:45 am
July 14, 2007
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Tavaner
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The draft orders of all three could be linked…in that if you get a high draft pick in one, you get a low one in another and a mid-ling in the third. Ex: #1o;#11d; #8r : #12o;#5d;#4r.
This way the talent is spread out and makes trades much more interesting. What do you all think?
Hopefully Smitty can help us with this as well.
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maybe we could do a standard random draft generator for the veteran draft, then use a lottery to determine order for the other two. That way EVERYONE still has a chance to get the #1 pick in all 3 drafts but your chances diminish if you had a higher draft pick in the previous draft.
So the team that gets the #16 pick in the Veteran draft should have a better chance of getting a high pick in the lottery for the Rookie draft than the guy who got the #1 pick in the Veteran draft.
Then for the IDP you can base the lottery numbers off of each teams average draft position they had between the Veteran draft and the rookie draft?
Does that make sense? Is that even possible with the tool your talking about Smitty?
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9:38 am
July 14, 2007
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Of course we still need 9 more teams before this gets off the ground…
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The Staff gonna join as well?
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I’d love to see some of the staffers join, even if you sign up incognito…..lol
Come on guys bring your friends along, lets fill this league up.!!
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12:22 am
July 15, 2007
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craphonso
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I am down with the IDP as mentioned above and the 3 seperate drafts.
Suggestions for the IDP scoring?
I like the following quote from XYZ for futre rookie drafts and have good experience with a similar system as it helps maintain interest throughout the season.
- The non-playoff teams are ranked in inverse order by record and then points. Then the teams who made the playoffs but lost their opening round game are ranked in inverse order the same way. This continues with the playoff teams until the Champion ultimately picks last.
I also would like to add that we should have points docked for lineups with bye players/illigal lineups etc.
I am open to flex RB/WR/TE but just to make sure we are all on the same page still is this in addition to the following positions? Listed below would give us 14 + 1 flex = 15? 15 would be a nice round number I guess.
QB-1
RB-2
WR-3
TE-1
K-1
DL-2
LB-2
DB-2
As far as overall roster size………..with IDP/rookie and main drafts I am thinking we could be approaching 40 roster spots!
18-20 offense
5-8 rookie including IDP
9-12
Does this look about right or am I way off here?
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1:13 am
July 15, 2007
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basher
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Hi Everyone,
Pretty new to the site, have to say though great site and great football knowledge.
This will be my first Dynasty format, sorry for the lateness but put me in and let’s get this rollin.
Championship!!!!!!!!(Sorry-couldn’t resist)
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Hey!, you cant say “Cahmpionship!!!!!!” You cant just skip out of the the most important part. You first must select Whosyourmamma, only THEN can you claim the Championship!!
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8:29 am
July 15, 2007
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Tavaner
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1 point for every Solo Tackle ALL
1 extra point when total Solo Tackles is greater than or equal to 15 ALL
2 points for every Interception ALL
2 points for every Sack ALL
2 points for every Fumble Forced ALL
1 point for every Fumble Recovered DB, DL, LB
4 points for every Safety ALL
6 points for every Defensive TD ALL
2 extra points for every Defensive TD between 40 and 79 yards (inclusive) ALL
4 extra points for every Defensive TD of 80 or more yards ALL
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8:49 am
July 15, 2007
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Tavaner
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Can’t edit the last post for some reason. I’ll report that later.
I’d go with 2pts per safety and the distance td thingy I’m not that fond of.
Scoring depends a lot on what the site we use allows. The above came from fleaflicker. I’d include pts for assists on tackles (.5/.75), much more might mess with scoring) but as I’m not a commisioner in an IDP league I can’t tell if that is an option.
Whatever scoring is used we should check to make sure the site supports it. Then see if it’s balanced overall…pretty sure we’ll have help with that.
The roster numbers craphonso put out seem about right. How does everyone feel about simultaneous drafts? We would need three separate threads, I’m pretty sure Smitty would allow it then combine everything. If not we might have to settle in for a summer’s worth of drafting… We could always do rook, dispersal, IDP or any variation thereof. I prefer the intensity of the 3 at once, keeps everyone involved.
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I think I’d prefer one at a time if possible, I think it will be overwhelming for people to try an keep track of 3 draft at once.
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11:09 am
July 15, 2007
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basher
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With suge a huge roster possibly 40 and everyone’s busy schedule. What is the time limit between picks. I know some dnyasty formats go 8 hours, also what happens if you missed your time and have no pre-ranking lists. How does it determine your pick?????????
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3:46 pm
July 15, 2007
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kroz42
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if we cant get enough teams… do u want to just do a 12 or 14 team league?
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