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2008 IDP Rankings
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1:07 am
July 25, 2008


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Initially, the plan was to list 20 players for each position but with so many leagues going to two defensive players at each position a list of 24 seemed logical based on 12 teams per league. Eventually the list was doubled to account for leagues from 8-20 teams. Instead of making the rankings easier it probably tripled the level of difficulty. Drawing from eight different sources I’ve come to one conclusion…no one agrees on anyone, ever, any place. Oh, Jared Allen, Mario Williams, Patrick Willis and DeMeco Ryans led off each of their respective positions but after them it is truly a free for all. So the rankings here are a stew of all contributing sources, not an average from all the sites though a players ADP was included.

As the year progresses I encourage any IDP manager to pay as close attention to the injuries around their IDP players as they do to the injuries to their WR1. Just as much as offensive players, IDP players depend on the players in front of and around them. I’ve tried to note situations to monitor in a number of cases but now that training camps are beginning more changes can be expected. These lists at least offer a baseline.

I encourage you to ask questions if you want to know why a player is ranked lower, higher or is off the list. I’ll get to all of them and while that doesn’t mean you’ll be any happier, you will know some of the info that had to be left out ;) . Lastly, when I mention big plays I mean interceptions and sacks.

Let the discussions begin!


Defensive Lineman Rankings

My advice is to grab at least one plug and play DL for your team. The pickings get increasingly slimmer the longer you wait.

1. Jared Allen, Min - What needs to be said? Joins the best 2 DT’s in the game which will give Allen more chances to produce. (ADP 8.04)
2. Mario Williams, Hou - May be a bit inconsistent as he was in the first half of 2007 but with this defense opposing teams can’t focus on him. (ADP 10.03)
3. Osi Umenyiora, NYG - Didn’t go consecutive weeks without a sack. Tackles should increase from last year. (ADP 10.10)
4. Trent Cole, Phi - He has worn down after Nov due to lack of DL depth and his size. This year, more depth = more sacks/less tackles but more consistency. (ADP 13.08)
5. Derrick Burgess, Oak - An injury held him back until the sixth week. 35 sacks over 3 years. Should match those numbers and still average 3+ tackles a game. (ADP 23.09)

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7:05 am
July 25, 2008


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Thank for the work on this Tav - this was no small task.

8:04 am
July 25, 2008


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This is my first year doing IDP, and as usual, I jumped in head-first. I’ve done 4 IDP drafts thus far, 3 tackles and 1 balanced. Here’s some observations that I’ve had.

In the 4 IDP drafts that I’ve done thus far, Paul Pos has gone earlier, usually as a LB1. He broke his arm, and people are not really considering him an injury risk.

Some other “rumblings/comments” that I’ve heard - GB is expected to blitz a bit more this season, especially early, so both Barnett and Hawk might go a little earlier in big play and balanced leagues

James Harrison went undrafted in the 3 tackles-heavy IDPs I drafted in except for the guy who also drafted Shawn Merriman in the same tackles-heavy draft. :) My guess is that a lot of people were seeing him as having a career season last year (pretty outstanding season at that)

Lofa went EARLY. Real early. LB1 in all 4 leagues of mine. Not sure if it was one of those coincidences or not, but he is a pretty popular dude. I think people aren’t paying attention to how stilted his big plays were and looked more at his final season totals

Zach Thomas was drafted in only 1 or 2 of my drafts, and at that, he was a late dude. He’s either going to be a bust or the sleeper of the year in Dallas.

Vilma went early in all 4 drafts, I suppose because he’s out of the Jets’ 3-4 and back to a 4-3 in NO.

Gibril, Trufant, Nate Clements and Sean Jones all went early in all 4 drafts.

Now, some questions for you Tav.

1) Does bringing Smith in help Willis? Willis had to fight through a hopeless DL to get his tackles last season. It’s pretty obvious he should “come down to earth”, but Smith should gobble up a blocker a lot more often, leaving Willis to do his thing, perhaps?

2) Does Cromartie’s season last year improve Jammer’s prospects this year as teams stay the hell away from Cromartie?

3) By the same token, does DeAngelo Hall become a bigger play due to teams simply avoiding Asomugha entirely?

9:40 am
July 25, 2008


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kethnaab said:

Now, some questions for you Tav.

1) Does bringing Smith in help Willis? Willis had to fight through a hopeless DL to get his tackles last season. It’s pretty obvious he should “come down to earth”, but Smith should gobble up a blocker a lot more often, leaving Willis to do his thing, perhaps?


Yes, but more from the ROLB position than the DE and more in the area of sacks. No one is sure the 49er defensive scheme (3-4) is really suited for Justin Smith. Currently he’s listed as the RDE, meaning he’ll go up against the LT’s. Willis’s best scenario is for Smith to occupy a blocker but if teams run over Smith instead (he’s 275, light for the position) Willis will still fill the lane. Don’t be surprised to see Justin Smith play some as the ROLB in pass rush situations, which would be fantasy gold for DE’s.

I believe Willis will have fewer tackles but more sacks. I don’t have a chart for this but I’ll bet more of Willis’ tackles came from helping out ROLB Banta-Cain last year than we realize.

kethnaab said:

2) Does Cromartie’s season last year improve Jammer’s prospects this year as teams stay the hell away from Cromartie?


Unless your idp scoring include’s passes defensed I’d leave Jammer on the waiver wire unless he’s a late/last pick. He’s one of many good football players whose stats don’t translate to fantasy. the two I expect to benefit from teams staying away from Cromartie are FS/SS Weddle and Hart…a pair of playmakers.

kethnaab said:

3) By the same token, does DeAngelo Hall become a bigger play due to teams simply avoiding Asomugha entirely?


Asomugha’s production fell off last year (34 tackles, 1 INT, 7 pass def)he’s a reserve IDP player at the moment but not an every week fantasy start. right now, another NFL player whose stats don’t translate. If anything they might target him more to avoid Hall (m/o), who could still give you 60+ tackles, forced fumbles, passes defensed and a handfull of INT’s. I just believe teams will try to run the ball on this defense.

The beneficiary of those talented CB’s should be Wilson. He’ll be allowed support the run close to the line of scrimmage, make some plays and is a viable #1DB. He has 284 solo tackles in 4 years in the league so he’ll be playing to his strength.

6:48 pm
July 29, 2008


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I’ve got a couple of updates:

MOVING UP:

Thomas Davis, Car ~ This converted safety has been moved to WLB in training camp, after this article was written. He’ll get you 80+ tackles and handful of INT’s or sacks (combined). Low 20’s, high 30’s ranking.

Paris Lenon, Det ~ is working as the starting middle linebacker at the beginning of training camp. This puts him on the list, late 30’s. 100+ total tackles/80 solos but not many big plays. Keep an eye on this, if he gets moved to SLB look for better options.

7:09 pm
July 29, 2008


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Patrick Willis should be even better this year the niners want to blitz him more he had 3 of his 4 sacks in his last 2 games along with a greatly improved D-Line teams can't focus on him when blocking on run plays so his tackles should stay consistent, also for Justin Smith he as well has Willis blitzing and rookie D-Lineman Kentwan Balmer, the word is niners will be using the 4-3 and the 3-4 depending on the situation and Justin Smith will play outside linebacker in 3-4 and defensive end in the 4-3

 

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