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**Live*** July 7th Expert Fantasy Football Draft

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1:39 pm
July 11, 2008


canopener

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canopener said:

5.03 51. FFGeekBlog.Com Witten, Jason DAL TE Fri Jul 11 9:07:11 a.m. ET 2008 Witten 2008 = Colston 2006?
         

WTF does that mean? Witten will be an undrafted rookie WR that comes in and kills it this year?

2:19 pm
July 11, 2008


det lions fan

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Colston was a 7th round pick, I think it means when they get in the playoffs and the cowboys choke witten will be the receiver who fumbles

3:29 pm
July 11, 2008


Smitty

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So, it's almost decision time:

Our Roster:

Peyton Manning, Ronnie Brown, Earnest Graham, Randy Moss, _____, ______ | _______

We're the third and fourth picks from now, these players are available. Again, this is not a PPR and we have two more WR spots to fill and one TE spot to fill, but our RBs could use some depth… but are the two WR spots more important? This is the fun part.

  • Jonathan Stewart
  • Kevin Smith
  • Rashard Mendenhall
  • Lee Evans
  • Dwayne Bowe
  • Roddy White
  • Chris Cooley
  • Derek Anderson
  • Hines Ward

Quick Observations: This is absolutely one of those times where you're frustrated to see a QB like Derek Anderson left when you already have your QB and you paid big bucks (high draft pick) to get him. Still, though, I like Anderson, but Manning is HUGE in a 6 point per TD league. Manning and Moss will carry this team week in and week out, to the point where some Weeks I think this team is going to score a huge amount of points.

So, What's next? Everyone probably knows I like Mendy more than Kevin Smith and Jonathan Stewart, so if I go with a rookie, it will be Mendy first. Or, do I go White and Bowe, or Evans and White? My initial reaction, and this could change, is to go Evans and Mendy. Bowe commands consideration as well, though. I like Bowe a lot this year. White too. Such decisions!

4:09 pm
July 11, 2008


luke_osu

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you start 2 rb and 3 wr?  if that is the case shouldnt you get your starting lineup set before you draft backups?  i would go evans, white, bowe in that order

4:14 pm
July 11, 2008


det lions fan

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that is a reall tough one I'd take Derek Anderson out because you have Manning, Lee Evans out because James Hardy is going to steal his TD catches, and Kevin Smith because I think top pick of round 6 is high and he might slide plus the Lions questionable line and talented receivers

4:43 pm
July 11, 2008


Smitty

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det lions fan said:

that is a reall tough one I'd take Derek Anderson out because you have Manning, Lee Evans out because James Hardy is going to steal his TD catches, and Kevin Smith because I think top pick of round 6 is high and he might slide plus the Lions questionable line and talented receivers


No I wouldn't take Anderson, just listing him and saying that it's frustrating to see such a solid QB right here. D. Anderson here and MJD or Lych at 13 overall… it's a nice thoguht now, but those always occur. I think I'm going Bowe or Evans with one and Mendy with the other. I need a back for sure, with Ronnie coming off ACL surgery. Don't trust him all year. I love the value I got, but still need another upside RB and I love Mendy come mid-season.

Hardy doesn't scare me at all. If he even develops right away, which he could, it will only be a good thing for Evans. Evans will have room to run if Hardy is doing well.

7:05 pm
July 11, 2008


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7:07 pm
July 11, 2008


Smitty

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Thoughts on the squads? I have to say, for a guy that normally always takes a RB in the first two rounds, I like this team… that said, not confident we would get so lucky and land the RBs we landed in just any draft.


UltimateFFStrategy.Com - Phil
Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted
Romo, Tony DAL QB - 10 3.01
Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB - 9 1.01
White, LenDale TEN RB - 6 4.12
Colston, Marques NOS WR - 9 2.12
Jennings, Greg GBP WR - 8 5.01
5 Total Players
FantasyFootballEdge.net - Tommy & Tye
Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted
McFadden, Darren OAK RB - 5 4.11
Peterson, Adrian MIN RB - 8 1.02
Turner, Michael ATL RB - 7 2.11
Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR - 7 3.02
Gates, Antonio SDC TE - 9 5.02
5 Total Players
FFGeekBlog.Com - Matt
Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted
Addai, Joseph IND RB - 4 1.03
Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB - 7 2.10
Edwards, Braylon CLE WR - 5 3.03
Welker, Wes NEP WR - 4 4.10
Witten, Jason DAL TE - 10 5.03
5 Total Players
Fantasy Football Calculator - Kevin Day
Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted
Brees, Drew NOS QB - 9 3.04
Jones, Thomas NYJ RB - 5 4.09
Westbrook, Brian PHI RB - 7 1.04
Holmes, Santonio PIT WR - 6 5.04
Wayne, Reggie IND WR - 4 2.09
5 Total Players
NotJustAGame.Com - Zack Cimini
Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted
Jackson, Steven STL RB - 5 1.05
Taylor, Fred JAC RB - 7 4.08
Johnson, Andre HOU WR - 8 2.08
Smith, Steve CAR WR - 9 3.05
Winslow, Kellen CLE TE - 5 5.05
5 Total Players
FFReport.Com - Greg Kellogg
Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted
Palmer, Carson CIN QB - 8 5.06
Barber, Marion DAL RB - 10 1.06
Forte, Matt CHI RB - 8 4.07
James, Edgerrin ARI RB - 7 3.06
Young, Selvin DEN RB - 8 2.07
5 Total Players
FantasyFootballCafe.Com - Gary
Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted
Jacobs, Brandon NYG RB - 4 4.06
Lewis, Jamal CLE RB - 5 2.06
Portis, Clinton WAS RB - 10 1.07
Houshmandzadeh, T.J. CIN WR - 8 3.07
Johnson, Calvin DET WR - 4 5.07
5 Total Players
FantasySharks.com - Greg Allen
Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted
Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB - 6 5.08
Gore, Frank SFO RB - 9 1.08
Maroney, Laurence NEP RB - 4 3.08
Parker, Willie PIT RB - 6 4.05
Owens, Terrell DAL WR - 10 2.05
5 Total Players
FantasyTailgate.com - Dan LaBert
Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted
Bush, Reggie NOS RB - 9 2.04
Johnson, Larry KCC RB - 6 1.09
Harrison, Marvin IND WR - 4 5.09
Holt, Torry STL WR - 5 3.09
Williams, Roy DET WR - 4 4.04
5 Total Players
FantasyFootballFools.Com - Jacob
Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted
Brady, Tom NEP QB - 4 1.10
Grant, Ryan GBP RB - 8 2.03
Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB - 9 5.10
Johnson, Chad CIN WR - 8 3.10
Marshall, Brandon DEN WR - 8 4.03
5 Total Players
JunkyardJake.Com - RC
Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted
Lynch, Marshawn BUF RB - 6 2.02
McGahee, Willis BAL RB - 10 1.11
Smith, Kevin DET RB - 4 5.11
Boldin, Anquan ARI WR - 7 4.02
Burress, Plaxico NYG WR - 4 3.11
5 Total Players
FantasyFootballXtreme.Com - Smitty
Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted
Manning, Peyton IND QB - 4 2.01
Brown, Ronnie MIA RB - 4 3.12
Graham, Earnest TBB RB - 10 4.01
Mendenhall, Rashard PIT RB - 6 5.12
Evans, Lee BUF WR - 6 6.01
Moss, Randy NEP WR - 4 1.12
6 Total Players

8:08 pm
July 11, 2008


det lions fan

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Michigan

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I see smith got taken earlier I'm kinda amazed people are taking him so early seems like you did the right thing because of those 3 RBs your gonna have some winners


8:57 pm
July 11, 2008


Smitty

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det lions fan said:

I see smith got taken earlier I'm kinda amazed people are taking him so early seems like you did the right thing because of those 3 RBs your gonna have some winners

Also I'm in the exact same situation as you witht he 10th pick in a 10 team draft but 1 WR/RB is 11 a stretch for MJD or should I take Portis/McGahee there



You know, not sure why, but I'm kinda avoiding Portis this year. I just don't have a great feeling about him. I'm not saying I won't change my view on that later, if I see him running smooth in that offense this pre-season, but I just feel like he is a great guy to grab if he slips awful far, but at 11 I'm taking someone else. McGahee and Lynch feel safe and secure, as do Bush and McGahee if it's a PPR. If it's not a PPR, LJ could fall and you wouldn't be nuts to go Moss/McGahee and come back around and grab a guy like Turner later. Turner will fall. So will Graham. Use the draft sim and crank out a few teams and post 'em in a new thread and let us know when the thread is up!

9:06 pm
July 11, 2008


det lions fan

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Michigan

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you kinda posted late but I feel the same way about Portis I wen McGahee and Willie Parker just because so many people here are on autodraft and he was ranked 17th plus he was doing great last year maybe had a rushing title until he got hurt and I plan later 6th round to take Mendenhall as my flex


then in the 3rd/4th I took Gates and Colston I'm just gonna get alot of late sleeper WRs to fill the second spot then as I was typing this I got ot the 5th/6th almost same situation as you Derek Anderson was till there took him and then Mendenhall plus it looks like CJ2 is gonna drop to me in the 7th as well as Lee Evans Dwayne Bowe Roddy White and Greg Jennings/Donald DRiver I for get which of the two is better

ok wow another update as I was typing this Calvin dropped to me and then took Jonathan Stewart to rotate with Mendenhall

9:13 pm
July 11, 2008


Smitty

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I probably would have waited on Parker, not that your combo wont work out, but his ADP isn't that high, so he should slide. You landed a solid WR1 in Colston, though. Adn Gates is second only to maybe Witten.

So

Derek Anderson, Willis McGahee, Willie Parker/Mendy, Marques Colston, Calvin Johnson, Lee Evans or Bowe-type, Antonio Gates

Not bad. The only thing I would have done different is waited more than a round or two on Parker, but you did well.

9:16 pm
July 11, 2008


Smitty

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Ok, back on point here… so, who were the steals and busts of this draft so far? Palmer was a steal at 5.06… Steve Smith at 3.05 is fantastic value, as well as Chad Johnson at 3.10!!! Chad at 3.10? I almost couldn't resist when I saw him there when on the clock before that, but I HAD TO go RB.

9:33 pm
July 11, 2008


det lions fan

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Michigan

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Braylon went after Andre and Colston which I find amazing, Marvin Harrison could have a good upside in the 5th, and then Welker at the end of the 4th was a good pick

Last time I'm gonna bring it up sorry but like I said 5 people didn't show up for the Draft so they are on auto pick and for some reason ESPN has Willie Parker ranked 17th overall so he was gonna be gone by the next time I picked, I would have waited for him because I knew he would have slided if people actually came to a draft

1:39 am
July 12, 2008


Smitty

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det lions fan said:

Braylon went after Andre and Colston which I find amazing, Marvin Harrison could have a good upside in the 5th, and then Welker at the end of the 4th was a good pick

Last time I'm gonna bring it up sorry but like I said 5 people didn't show up for the Draft so they are on auto pick and for some reason ESPN has Willie Parker ranked 17th overall so he was gonna be gone by the next time I picked, I would have waited for him because I knew he would have slided if people actually came to a draft


Oh, I see. My fault. I still think I would have let him go at the draft slot though, it just means a guy should fall to your next pick that shouldn't. I guess if you like him you like him and you got your guy. That's all that matters no matter what anyone thinks. That rushing attack is going to rock and you have it locked down, nice work. It will produce!

As for Braylon was a steal in this expert draft, but I think Chad and Smith more so.  Chad especially. I was so close to grabbing him but just needed the rushers.

2:38 am
July 12, 2008


det lions fan

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For busts why was Selvin Young taken so early top 20 pick no way he wasn't even drafted last year, and then Marion Barber at 6 was a reach I think Frank Gore was much better suited in that posistion Martz will use him like he did Marshal Faulk

And nice picks with Earnest Ghram and Lee Evans just see what Eanrest did last year in 10 games starting 1200 yards and 10 TDs


2:56 am
July 12, 2008


Smitty

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det lions fan said:

For busts why was Selvin Young taken so early top 20 pick no way he wasn't even drafted last year, and then Marion Barber at 6 was a reach I think Frank Gore was much better suited in that posistion Martz will use him like he did Marshal Faulk

And nice picks with Earnest Ghram and Lee Evans just see what Eanrest did last year in 10 games starting 1200 yards and 10 TDs



I think you're 100% right on Selvin and I agree Gore was WAY better than Barber. Barber is a solid RB2 for a person with any early second round draft slot. I don't like him as a RB1 because he has to go nuts to even be worth his draft spot.

Graham was a monster steal IMO, considering he could play just as well as Barber in 2008. While I still like my Manning pick due to this league's scoring (6 points per TD pass), I can say that one other route that could have worked maybe a bit better, or at least safer, was to take a Lynch with one of my 12/13 picks and snagged Derek Anderson way late. Anderson is atop 5QB to me, and while he will still be a grip of TDs behind Mannning this year, the RB upgrade could have worked out pretty well.

Still, given I snagged Graham and Brown late, I can't complain. I won't lie, the Manning/Randy strategy could have just as easily backfired. There was some luck to getting the RBs I did. If this league would have had a flex, I could have got burned.

9:31 am
July 12, 2008


det lions fan

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Michigan

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theres always alot of value backs later on and manning is for sure 31 TDs 15 ints 4000+ yards while derek could have been a risk

1:14 am
July 14, 2008


Smitty

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Since our last two picks, we grabbed Heap and Chester Taylor.

Our team so far:

Peyton Manning, Ronnie Brown, Earnest Graham, Randy Moss, Lee Evans, _________, Todd Heap (Bench: Mendy, Chester)


5.12 60. FantasyFootballXtreme.Com Mendenhall, Rashard PIT RB Fri Jul 11 7:21:45 p.m. ET 2008 Mendy is going to turn some heads in his rookie season!
6.01 61. FantasyFootballXtreme.Com Evans, Lee BUF WR Fri Jul 11 7:23:12 p.m. ET 2008 I have no problems taking the very underrated talent as my WR2. Buffalo is on the rise and that offense will shock fantasy worlds in '08, IMHO.
6.02 62. JunkyardJake.Com Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR Fri Jul 11 9:01:36 p.m. ET 2008 Dang it, FF_Fools took Jonathan Stewart, and Smitty took Lee Evans, the two guys I was hoping for. Nice picks you guys.
6.03 63. FantasyFootballFools.Com Cotchery, Jerricho NYJ WR Sat Jul 12 1:38:23 a.m. ET 2008 Nice picks indeed. I was hoping Lee Evans would fall back to me here. I'm greedy. Oh well.
6.04 64. FantasyTailgate.com Johnson, Rudi CIN RB Sat Jul 12 1:38:23 a.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
6.05 65. FantasySharks.com Chambers, Chris SDC WR Sat Jul 12 1:38:23 a.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
6.06 66. FantasyFootballCafe.Com Jones, Julius SEA RB Sat Jul 12 11:53:27 a.m. ET 2008
6.07 67. FFReport.Com Vikings, Minnesota MIN Def Sat Jul 12 11:53:27 a.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
6.08 68. NotJustAGame.Com Berrian, Bernard MIN WR Sat Jul 12 6:07:58 p.m. ET 2008
6.09 69. Fantasy Football Calculator Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE Sat Jul 12 6:07:58 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
6.10 70. FFGeekBlog.Com Anderson, Derek CLE QB Sun Jul 13 9:48:34 a.m. ET 2008
6.11 71. FantasyFootballEdge.net White, Roddy ATL WR Sun Jul 13 9:48:34 a.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
6.12 72. UltimateFFStrategy.Com Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB Sun Jul 13 9:48:34 a.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
7.01 73. UltimateFFStrategy.Com Ward, Hines PIT WR Sun Jul 13 9:48:34 a.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
7.02 74. FantasyFootballEdge.net McNabb, Donovan PHI QB Sun Jul 13 9:55:07 a.m. ET 2008
7.03 75. FFGeekBlog.Com Curtis, Kevin PHI WR Sun Jul 13 11:31:07 a.m. ET 2008
7.04 76. Fantasy Football Calculator Galloway, Joey TBB WR Sun Jul 13 12:22:29 p.m. ET 2008
7.05 77. NotJustAGame.Com Cutler, Jay DEN QB Sun Jul 13 12:22:29 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
7.06 78. FFReport.Com Davis, Vernon SFO TE Sun Jul 13 12:22:29 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
7.07 79. FantasyFootballCafe.Com Hasselbeck, Matt SEA QB Sun Jul 13 7:40:49 p.m. ET 2008
7.08 80. FantasySharks.com Clark, Dallas IND TE Sun Jul 13 7:40:49 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
7.09 81. FantasyTailgate.com Cooley, Chris WAS TE Sun Jul 13 7:40:49 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
7.10 82. FantasyFootballFools.Com Moss, Santana WAS WR Sun Jul 13 11:49:40 p.m. ET 2008
7.11 83. JunkyardJake.Com Gonzalez, Anthony IND WR Mon Jul 14 1:14:05 a.m. ET 2008
7.12 84. FantasyFootballXtreme.Com Heap, Todd BAL TE Mon Jul 14 1:23:23 a.m. ET 2008 The TE is going to be used a ton in 2008 - Heap is in for a big year if ready to roll come Sept.
8.01 85. FantasyFootballXtreme.Com Taylor, Chester MIN RB Mon Jul 14 1:26:33 a.m. ET 2008
8.02 86. JunkyardJake.Com Waiting On JunkyardJake.Com For The Next Pick

9:17 am
July 14, 2008


det lions fan

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Nice pickups there so late Heap when healthy which he should be has been great and Chestor Taylor is a good backup but he also adds extra value when AP goes down which he will, when he does then you can either set up a trade with him or keep him and watch him pull off a few hundred yard games

 

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