It's finally here!

appocalypse187 said:

O.k. maybe i’m a show me ya can do it over a entire season and then some type of person but i thnk we have heard the same talk about a back up rb before and he flopped …………..Lamont Jordan . Sure ya can throw Priest Holmes out there all ya want but he wasn’t even talked about as becoming the next great stud when the chiefs got him . Don’t get me wrong Turner has all the tools to be a great back given the chance he has now but lets just wait and see before we crown him the next Priest Holmes . Then you also have to look at the fact that most back up rb’s are usually a completely different style then the starter a.k.a. a change of pace rb . Teams get use to the speed and slashing ability of L.T. and then here comes the power and speed , not so much the slashing ability of Turner , it catches defenses off guard 5 to 10 times in a game . Plus a great o-line in S.D. to go along with a solid offense and defense . Hey just playing devil’s advocate it’s just my opinion LOL i know it wont be a popular one but hey ya can’t please everyone .

First off, LaMont didn't bust. He was an elite back, so much so, in his second fantasy season as a starter, he went in the first round because of his huge season he threw down the year prior. The offense fell apart and Jordan struggled… then he got hurt. He was brought back to life last season in the very beginning of the year, playing like a top 10ish RB for a string of games. His back did him in and honestly I think he deserves a gig somewhere still.

As for not being sure about Turner in Atlanta, I feel ya guys… I'd rather it be Houston, but Atlanta could work out just as well.

Look how many were upset about AP going to Minnesota last year? Um, that worked out just fine lol. What about Cleveland and how bad that line looked last year before the draft? Jamal played fantastic, as did the offense, who like FarFromHome said earlier had Frye starting in Week 1.

I'm not saying Atlanta has a Derek Anderson on the bench, and Im' not saying that anyone thought Minnesota had a bad line… my point is, things aren't always what they seem and Arthur Blank is all about getting back to good. I think he will get it done and this offense will be a lot better than most think. A lot still needs to happen, but Blank wouldn't have spent the cash on Turner and Turner wouldn't have accepted this deal if he didn't hear the things he needed to hear.

appocalypse187 said:

Smitty said:

appocalypse187 said:

O.k. maybe i’m a show me ya can do it over a entire season and then some type of person but i thnk we have heard the same talk about a back up rb before and he flopped …………..Lamont Jordan . Sure ya can throw Priest Holmes out there all ya want but he wasn’t even talked about as becoming the next great stud when the chiefs got him . Don’t get me wrong Turner has all the tools to be a great back given the chance he has now but lets just wait and see before we crown him the next Priest Holmes . Then you also have to look at the fact that most back up rb’s are usually a completely different style then the starter a.k.a. a change of pace rb . Teams get use to the speed and slashing ability of L.T. and then here comes the power and speed , not so much the slashing ability of Turner , it catches defenses off guard 5 to 10 times in a game . Plus a great o-line in S.D. to go along with a solid offense and defense . Hey just playing devil’s advocate it’s just my opinion LOL i know it wont be a popular one but hey ya can’t please everyone .

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First off, LaMont didn’t bust. He was an elite back, so much so, in his second fantasy season as a starter, he went in the first round because of his huge season he threw down the year prior. The offense fell apart and Jordan struggled… then he got hurt. He was brought back to life last season in the very beginning of the year, playing like a top 10ish RB for a string of games. His back did him in and honestly I think he deserves a gig somewhere still.

As for not being sure about Turner in Atlanta, I feel ya guys… I’d rather it be Houston, but Atlanta could work out just as well.

Look how many were upset about AP going to Minnesota last year? Um, that worked out just fine lol. What about Cleveland and how bad that line looked last year before the draft? Jamal played fantastic, as did the offense, who like FarFromHome said earlier had Frye starting in Week 1.

I’m not saying Atlanta has a Derek Anderson on the bench, and Im’ not saying that anyone thought Minnesota had a bad line… my point is, things aren’t always what they seem and Arthur Blank is all about getting back to good. I think he will get it done and this offense will be a lot better than most think. A lot still needs to happen, but Blank wouldn’t have spent the cash on Turner and Turner wouldn’t have accepted this deal if he didn’t hear the things he needed to hear.

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I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree on LaMont Jordan being a bust because the injury part is somethiing every elite back has to deal with and if they can’t handle the full time gig like Jordan couldn’t they get worn down and hurt . Thus IMO he’s best suited as a change of pace back and on 3rd down because of his recieving ability nothing more . Turner is no AP and spot duty with L.T. wearing down defenses for him ya really didn’t get a true sense of what Turner can do as the main guy . Hey he may put up 1800 total yards and 10 to 15 td’s but i’ll believe it when i see it year after year . Hell i have AP and i’m a little skeptical if he can produce year after year because one year is nothing any rb can be a beast for one year , get back with me when thay have done it 4 or more years .

Well, anything can happen and anyone can get hurt. AP has injury issues, no doubt, but if you lock down Chester and AP together, you just can't go wrong.

As for "The Burner"… people are going to disagree on this, which is fine… and honestly, anything can happen and the team could mess up between now and August and screw up the draft and free agency… I can't predict this, but what I can say is that Turner is the guy… he has the talent and if the team gives him support, and I think they will, he will be on a mission.

Having people disagree is part of the fun in this sport.

Findawg said:

Smitty – not to change things up but I have a redraft question regarding Turner (this thread is posted on all forums so I’ll just put it here)…now that we know where Turner will be playing…

Complete redraft – 12 teams and I’m picking #10….

Would you take him in the 2nd #15 overall or take a chance that he’s still on the board in the late 3rd #34 overall?

I’m a huge Turner fan and was really hoping he ended up in Houston, nothing against Atlanta I just felt Houston would have been the perfect fit.

Thnx

Yea, you could try and see if he slips, but that would be pretty far given he is starting. If McFadden went to ATL, no one would be reacting quite like everyone is, they would have small concerns about the line, but they wouldn't be jumping ship like you're seeing currently. It's all about expectations… many were expecting certain landing spots and it didn't workout. Atlanta is not ideal, but either was San Diego for LT for years and years. Either is San Fran currently for Frank Gore. I take him in the 2nd, but you could consider trading down a few spots when on the clock, thus moving your third up a few spots or something like that. Trade for the 18 pick or something. 20 would even work in some leagues (unless I'm in the draft :) ).

Findawg said:

Marbles thnx for the input…I put Smitty’s name there just because I know the guy loves Turner – anybody can feel free to chime in on that though. The more opinions the better….

Tav – thnx for the welcome back…I’ve been trolling around the threads just not posting.

Just for the record we hold our draft anually the 3rd weekend of pre-season…usually a Sat. night after we watch a few weeks of pre-season. So I’m guessing Turner’s value will be pretty high at that point.

What sucks is that in my dynasty league I have Turner as well as Norwood…I was hoping I’d end up with two new starters this year on diff. teams. Oh well…I’m just excited to see Turner finally get his shot.

Norwood had no real shot at being the flat-out starter in my opinion, but now you have a great handcuff. I like that for you, actually. And I'll be honest, I think Turner's situation is going to look a grip better in the coming months. I say go get him in any league where an owner is down on this signing. I still don't get the universal "letdown" that is spreading like wildfire. I just don't get it, but that is only in the advantage of those that can go buy low.